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Yes we all voted for change, but gosh give it some time. The economy is not back to the way it was, but we were stuck in a huge hole it takes some time to get back out. Yes you are made about bailouts, but wouldn’t you want the gov’t so save you when its the company you work for that is going to shut down unless they get a lifeline. We needed some form of new health care too. Now look at all those people who can’t get medical coverage because of pre-existing conditions are out of luck. Nope no health care for them at all. Yeah we elected a Democratic Congress but all Republicans have to do is be dead weight and they slow progress to a crawl. All have to say about security is at least now we get the real picture, what is really happening. We are fixing mistakes and lucky we haven’t had the worse come true. Can you really say that these past 8 years. Back then I am sure the White House would have said we are fine and that Christmas day attack was an isolated incident and that we knew about it the whole time, or some crap Bush would have tried to get past us. I am just saying could we get 4 years and some cooperation before we start jumping ship.

First I for the most part am with Susan from Texas ! I am from Massachusetts. My vote was not for grid lock and yes I voted for Scott Brown. My vote was against the health care bill AS IT IS. It is also against the politics as usual. I am a fiscal Conservative republican a moderate socially to centrist leaning in all other beliefs. What I resented the most is the president telling me that he and the rest of the government knew what was best for me. I resented they lack of openness that he himself promised on CNN. I resented the back door deals made to different states like Nebraska to get a bill that it seemed no one liked.

The republicans yes, may have now the ability to filibuster the bill now. However if honest assessment made the democrats had no need to even talk to republicans before Mr. Brown was elected. Maybe now with so much hanging in the balance on both sides they may actually start a bi-partisan talk on sensible health care that will be available to everyone. Remember Mr. Brown did vote for health care in Massachusetts that took care of 97% of his people in his home state.

Just so everyone is on the same page, Here is what H.R. 3962, Speaker Pelosi™s government takeover of health care creates. 111 new government agencies.

1. Retiree Reserve Trust Fund (Section 111(d), p. 61)
2. Grant program for wellness programs to small employers (Section 112, p. 62)
3. Grant program for State health access programs (Section 114, p. 72)
4. Program of administrative simplification (Section 115, p. 76)
5. Health Benefits Advisory Committee (Section 223, p. 111)
6. Health Choices Administration (Section 241, p. 131)
7. Qualified Health Benefits Plan Ombudsman (Section 244, p. 138)
8. Health Insurance Exchange (Section 201, p. 155)
9. Program for technical assistance to employees of small businesses buying Exchange coverage (Section 305(h), p. 191)
10. Mechanism for insurance risk pooling to be established by Health Choices Commissioner (Section 306(b), p. 194)
11. Health Insurance Exchange Trust Fund (Section 307, p. 195)
12. State-based Health Insurance Exchanges (Section 308, p. 197)
13. Grant program for health insurance cooperatives (Section 310, p. 206)
14. Public Health Insurance Option (Section 321, p. 211)
15. Ombudsman for Public Health Insurance Option (Section 321(d), p. 213)
16. Account for receipts and disbursements for Public Health Insurance Option(Section 322(b), p. 215)
17. Telehealth Advisory Committee (Section 1191 (b), p. 589)
18. Demonstration program providing reimbursement for culturally and linguistically appropriate services(Section 1222, p. 617)
19. Demonstration program for shared decision making using patient decision aids (Section 1236, p. 648)
20. Accountable Care Organization pilot program under Medicare (Section 1301, p. 653)
21. Independent patient-centered medical home pilot program under Medicare (Section 1302, p. 672)
22. Community-based medical home pilot program under Medicare (Section 1302(d), p. 681)
23. Independence at home demonstration program (Sect Health Insurance Option(Section 322(b), p. 215)
17. Telehealth Advisory Committee (Section 1191 (b), p. 589)
18. Demonstration program providing reimbursement for culturally and linguistically appropriate services (Section 1222, p. 617)
19. Demonstration program for shared decision making using patient decision aids (Section 1236, p. 648)
20. Accountable Care Organization pilot program under Medicare (Section 1301, p. 653)
21. Independent patient-centered medical home pilot program under Medicare (Section 1302, p. 672)
22. Community-based medical home pilot program under Medicare (Section 1302(d), p. 681)
23. Independence at home demonstration program (Section 1312, p. 718)
24. Center for Comparative Effectiveness Research (Section 1401(a), p. 734)
25. Comparative Effectiveness Research Commission (Section 1401(a), p. 738)
26. Patient ombudsman for comparative effectiveness research (Section 1401(a), p. 753)
27. Quality assurance and performance improvement program for skilled nursing facilities (Section 1412(b)(1), p. 784)
28. Quality assurance and performance improvement program for nursing facilities (Section 1412 (b)(2), p. 786)
29. Special focus facility program for skilled nursing facilities (Section 1413(a)(3), p. 796)
30. Special focus facility program for nursing facilities (Section 1413(b)(3), p. 804)
31. National independent monitor pilot program for skilled nursing facilities and nursing facilities (Section 1422, p. 859)
32. Demonstration program for approved teaching health centers with respect to Medicare GME (Section 1502(d), p. 933)
33. Pilot program to develop anti-fraud compliance systems for Medicare providers (Section 1635, p. 978)
34. Special Inspector General for the Health Insurance Exchange (Section 1647, p. 1000)
35. Medical home pilot program under Medicaid (Section 1722, p. 1058)
36. Accountable Care Organization pilot program under Medicaid (Section 1730A, p. 1073)
37. Nursing facility supplemental payment program (Section 1745, p. 1106)
38. Demonstration program for Medicaid coverage to stabilize emergency medical conditions in institutions for mental diseases (Section 1787, p. 1149)
39. Comparative Effectiveness Research Trust Fund (Section 1802, p. 1162)
40. Identifiable office or program within CMS to provide for improved coordination between Medicare and Medicaid in the case of dual eligibility (Section 1905, p. 1191)
41. Center for Medicare and Medicaid Innovation (Section 1907, p. 1198)
42. Public Health Investment Fund (Section 2002, p. 1214)
43. Scholarships for service in health professional needs areas (Section 2211, p. 1224)
44. Program for training medical residents in community-based settings (Section 2214, p. 1236)
45. Grant program for training in dentistry programs (Section 2215, p. 1240)
46. Public Health Workforce Corps (Section 2231, p. 1253)
47. Public health workforce scholarship program (Section 2231, p. 1254)
48. Pub
94. Grant program to disseminate best practices on implementing health workforce investment programs (Section 2591, p. 1632)
95. Demonstration program for chronic shortages of health professionals (Section 3101, p. 1717)
96. Demonstration program for substance abuse counselor educational curricula (Section 3101, p. 1719)
97. Program of Indian community education on mental illness (Section 3101, p. 1722)
98. Intergovernmental Task Force on Indian environmental and nuclear hazards (Section 3101, p. 1754)
99. Office of Indian Man’s Health (Section 3101, p. 1765)
100. Indian Health facilities appropriation advisory board (Section 3101, p. 1774)
101. Indian Health facilities needs assessment workgroup (Section 3101, p. 1775)
102. Indian Health Service tribal facilities joint venture demonstration projects (Section 3101, p. 1809)
103. Urban youth treatment center demonstration project (Section 3101, p. 1873)
104. Grants to Urban Indian Organizations for diabetes pre
There is not enough room here to list all 111 of the new programs but each one of these provisions of the bill would require an agency to oversee it. They might be able to consolidate some of them but this is why the Bill cost so much and why an average family of 4 will be paying $15,000 dollars per year in premiums.
babie,
Am I correct in detecting some sarcasm in your answer?

Well, be fair. Where else are we all going to work once Obama taxes the banks out of existence and the private sector collapses? Gotta look to the future, you know.

Dec. 23 (Bloomberg) — The Congressional Budget Office challenged claims by health-care overhaul proponents that Medicare savings in Senate legislation would help finance expanded coverage and postpone the bankruptcy of the medical program for the elderly.

The nonpartisan agency said the $246 billion it projected the legislation would save Medicare can’t both finance new programs and help pay future expenses for elderly covered under the federal program.

Nor could those savings be used to extend the solvency of Medicare, set to run out of money in 2017, the budget office said in a letter to Senate Republicans.

“What we’ve seen is a colossal manipulation” by Democrats “of the accounting scores of CBO” and the independent actuary of the Centers for Medicare and Medicaid, said Alabama Senator Jeff Sessions, the Republican who requested the analysis from CBO. He called the letter “a potential game-changer.”

http://www.bloomberg.com/apps/news?pid=20601087&sid=ackCRQU57HhY&pos=9

The CBO also said that the bill spends the so-called Medicare cuts/savings TWICE. I think they should all go on Iron Chef – they cook the books better than anyone else.

-Increase the Medicaid threshold to insure the uninsurable with pre-existing conditions and the lower middle class who are currently not eligible for Medicaid but unable to afford private insurance.
-Tax credits to lower and middle income households to purchase private health insurance plans.
-Regulatory reform to reduce instances of denial of coverage due to pre-existing conditions.
-Creating an independent agency to audit and investigate cases of fraud on the Medicare/Medicaid rolls.
-Tort reform, allowing private insurers/HMO’s, hospitals, clinics and drug companies to lower operating costs from frivolous lawsuits.
-Allowing insurers to sell across state lines with portable insurance policies that allow people to move from state-to-state and keep their policies. It will also allow insurers to relocate to states with lower taxes and lower operating costs. These lowered operating costs would then conceivably be passed on to the insured.
-Employer regulations to insure that recently laid-off workers can keep their current policies for a suitable period of time (maybe 6 months) until they can find other means of employment or health insurance.
-No Public Option, and thus no multiple-trillions of dollars spent and no attrition of private insurers.

If we can achieve those goals, not only will we have near-universal healthcare, but we will also continue to have private insurers operating in a reduced-cost environment.
Also, the United States has some of the greatest hospitals (JHH and Mayo) and the best Medical Schools (Harvard and Johns Hopkins) in the world. Just thought that needed to be said.
At A.E. Moreira, that’s why we allow insurers to sell beyond state lines, so that they can relocate or incorporate in states that already have tort reform.

But the "bottom-line" question IS, Why does the Government WANT to "control" Health Care?
What qualifies THEM to make Your decisions? Giving them control of THIS aspect of OUR lives, gives them access to control MORE of OUR choices, about how we live.
It is not the job, or responsibility, of Government to manage OUR lives. Name ONE Government Administrated Program that has NOT been inundated by fraud, mismanagement, budget problems, and all the other garbage that comes with "Government Involvement".
Constitutionally speaking, THIS is not in their "job description", nor should it be!
IF we are foolish enough to allow this, what will be the next aspect of Your Life that you will be ready to give them control of? How long until WE realize that we cannot crap, without the approval of Government? In other words, where will Government Involvement STOP?
Please, do not become a bunch of Sheep, being led to the slaughter!
That is how this Bozo got elected! A bunch of brain-dead idiots did not have enough intelligence to make an "informed decision"!
Foolish Drones!

I am 6 months pregnant and 21 years old. I am still on my parents’ health insurance, as I am an unemployed student. My boyfriend, who is an independent, is an unemployed student as well. He is currently uninsured and, as we have found, is uninsurable due to the fact that I am pregnant. My parents’ health insurance WILL NOT cover grandchildren (dependents of dependents) and so my baby will not be covered on their plan. Individual health insurance plans will not cover my infant until up to 30 days AFTER he is born (and we can apply for medical insurance for him). How do I secure health care coverage for him BEFORE he comes so he can start going to the pediatrician immediately?

Go to your local clinic and get yourself on medical(you automatically qualify b/c u are pregnant). They will do everything for you at the clinic and automatically qualifies your baby when it is born. I strongly urge you to do this due to the fact that you probablly won’t have money to be paying for insurance and you and your baby can get great doctors on medical and dental for your child.

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20091105/ap_on_go_co/us_health_care_uninsurables

quoting…
President Barack Obama promises would immediately start serving patients with pre-existing medical problems. Wait a second. Read the fine print. You may have to be uninsured for six months to qualify.

Now, concerns are being raised about the design of the high-risk pools. In addition to the six-month wait, there’s a more fundamental issue — whether $5 billion set aside for the three-year program is enough. The money would be used to help people in poor health pay premiums.

If the Democrats’ risk pool starts running out of money, the government may have to start a waiting list, raise premiums or take other unpopular measures. Congress could be asked for a bailout.

Several independent experts say concerns about the financing are valid.

"It would seem that ($5 billion) is going to be small relative to the need," said Thomas Buchmueller, a University of Michigan business professor.

Some 30 states now have risk pools for those who can’t get health insurance on the private market, covering about 200,000 people at a cost of around $1 billion a year.

"This is clearly not going to be enough money to cover everybody," said Pollitz.

…….does "this" make obama marxism any more palatable to you?…..

WHEN IS ENOUGH…ENOUGH?
tch tch tch…adam…adam ..adam…i have given you the textbook definition of marxism THREE TIMES NOW. im unclear why we have to do it again but, ok, for your "clarification" here it is….

The doctrines of Karl Marx and his associate Friedrich Engels on economics, politics, and society. They include the notion of economic determinism — that political and social structures are determined by the economic conditions of people(adam, ahhh could this be THIS HEALTH INSURANCE FIASCO, rather than reality). Marxism calls for a classless society in which all means of production are commonly owned (gee adam, gm, aig, where does it stop)(communism), a system to be reached as an inevitable result of the struggle between the leaders of capitalism and the workers.

the point adam, for the umpteenth time is THESE ARENT THE PRINICPLES ON WHICH THIS COUNTRY WAS FOUNDED. theyre not healthy, theyre cancerous and doomed to failure. I dont need Ayn Rand or anyone else to show me the obvious
no, greg, my contention is that REALITY is better than a marxist inspired race into failed socialism.
do you really believe that patriot??? lmfao….my sytem is much simpler…ITS CALLED GET A JOB!!! i pay for my own…i dont need a marxist system to pay for mine through confiscatory taxation and failed welfare schemes. by the way im far from rich, its a struggle, but I DID IT WITH MY MONEY…not some communist scheme…thanks.

There is not enough money nor is there enough doctors for all who he insist must be insured by force.

The Majority of sane Americans want no part of it. The Majority of
those with good benefits want no part of it. Seniors want absolutely
no part of it. So who does that leave wanting this rammed down the
nations throats. Liberals and more Liberals. And no one else.

Democrats with good Medical Insurance are not lined up with signs
saying bring on this disaster,
Republicans with good Medical Insurance are not lined up with signs
saying bring on this disaster,
Independents with good coverage the same.
So again who is left. No One but socialist and liberals.

I have researched as much as I can. I have looked at all different
segments of this society, I can’t find anyone that is happy or
successful with what they have. wanting anything to do with this
mess. So I guess somewhat like you, Who is really wanting this
coverage and for what reasons.

The Majority of sane Americans want no part of it. The Majority of
those with good benefits want no part of it. Seniors want absolutely
no part of it. So who does that leave wanting this rammed down the
nations throats. Liberals and more Liberals. And no one else.

Democrats with good Medical Insurance are not lined up with signs
saying bring on this disaster,
Republicans with good Medical Insurance are not lined up with signs
saying bring on this disaster,
Independents with good coverage the same.
So again who is left. No One but socialist and liberals.

I have researched as much as I can. I have looked at all different
segments of this society, I can’t find anyone that is happy or
successful with what they have. wanting anything to do with this
mess. So I guess somewhat like you, Who is really wanting this
coverage and for what reasons.

My plan is to run for the U.S. House of Represenatives when I’m 25, serve 3 terms (or 2 1/2), run for U.S. Senate when I’m 30/31, and then President of the United States when I’m 35. (I know, I’m ambitious.)

But when it comes to political views, I tend to side with the Democrats too often to be a Republican, but tend to side with the Republicans too often to be a Democrat. I dont’ want to be independent, I perfer running in a party. (I’m also Catholic, yet I always seperate church and state.) These are some of my views:

Abortion: I believe abortion is a woman’s right to hold; if she wants or needs to get an abortion, she should be allowed. Teenage mothers should also be included in this; age can hurt the mother just as much as it can hurt the baby, and all options need to be open in order to protect as many lives as possible.

Education: Support early childhood education, college tuition, and reward better teachers. Also I think everyone should have a chance at a great education. I believe in lowering college tuition, as too many familys are killing themselves trying to payback loans.

Energy: I believe in making sure we replace our dependence on oil with clean coal, solar, wind, bio fuel, water, and other forms of energy that can be renewed.

Free Trade: I support free trade, yet I also believe that Americans should buy many american made products. It will help our economy and increase jobs and revenue.

Gun Control: I take what is has been called the ‘Texan’ gun stance in politics in the sense that as long as a person isnt dangerous, they should continue to have the right to bear arms. (Felons, psychopaths, people with severe depression, etc, will need medical clearance or simply will no longer have this right.

Heath Care: I support Teddy Kennedy’s (God Bless You Ted) views on Health Care in the sense that every American should have cheap, affordable health care that provides good coverage. I mean, Canada gets free health care, and the get 6 free massages covered by it per year!

Homeland Security: How the Patriot Act ever passed is absolutly mindblowing to me, as it pretty much violates everything the Constitution protects…But I do believe in tight Homeland Security, in order to prevent another 9/11 as long as there are prominent threats to the well-being of America.

LGBT Rights: I believe people should follow whatever orientation they
desire, and should have equal rights as every hetero-sexual citizen.

Social Secruity: I believe that some social secruity should be private so that people can choose what they want to invest in. To be honest, I dont know much about it, but people should definetly be able to protect themselves.

Stem cell research: I support stem cell research.

Taxes: Have and even tax rate for all classes. We need to close the gap between the rich and the poor.

Foreign Policy: Have friendly relations with all countries, and to not interfere with their politcal freedoms and beliefs.

go libertarian. peoples rights are always first.

BMA: Medical student, Tom Foley from the MSC’s Finance sub-committee, talks about a new BMA report which shows medical student debt could almost double to £37,000 as a result of the introduction of top-up fees and discusses why there has to be an independent review of medical student finance.

The video clip also features interviews with two students who will each face £50,000of debt when they graduate (28th May 2008)

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